Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home
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 Grant (SSSF)Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1673 Credit: 17,645,310 RAC: 22,516 
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What write to disk setting?Write to disk at most every 600 seconds (this is a pointless setting which is blatantly ignored)Well mine says 10 minutes, but the writing is continuous. I just ran some rare covid GPU units from WCG. The disk was doing 20MB/sec write non-stop. Another Boinc screwup. I've looked and can't any such setting in the Rosetta project settings or in the Computing preferences settings. How can something that doesn't exist be a screwup? Grant Darwin NT |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,717,270 RAC: 10,117 
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If you're using the horrid Boinc Manager, I think it's under "Request tasks to checkpoint" under computing tab in computing preferences.What write to disk setting?Write to disk at most every 600 seconds (this is a pointless setting which is blatantly ignored)Well mine says 10 minutes, but the writing is continuous. I just ran some rare covid GPU units from WCG. The disk was doing 20MB/sec write non-stop. Another Boinc screwup. |
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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1673 Credit: 17,645,310 RAC: 22,516
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If you're using the horrid Boinc Manager, I think it's under "Request tasks to checkpoint" under computing tab in computing preferences.What write to disk setting?Write to disk at most every 600 seconds (this is a pointless setting which is blatantly ignored)Well mine says 10 minutes, but the writing is continuous. I just ran some rare covid GPU units from WCG. The disk was doing 20MB/sec write non-stop. Another Boinc screwup. Account page, Computing preferences, Computing, Other, Request tasks to checkpoint at most every xx secondsis as it says- It is a request, not a hard limit or requirement. It is up to each application that is running as to when it actually checkpoints- if the project programmer chooses not to take input from the user settings, then that's somthing you need to takae up with that project. It is not a BOINC failure. The most frequent complaint has been about applications not checkpointing often enough, and people losing work. Grant Darwin NT |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
Greg, technical questions are being asked, you can respond here, or tell me what to say if you don't want to create an account. I'm there adding my remarks, thanks |
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Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,717,270 RAC: 10,117
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Since virtually no project obeys this, it might aswell not be there. And on Boinctasks it's called "write to disk at most x seconds".If you're using the horrid Boinc Manager, I think it's under "Request tasks to checkpoint" under computing tab in computing preferences.What write to disk setting?Write to disk at most every 600 seconds (this is a pointless setting which is blatantly ignored)Well mine says 10 minutes, but the writing is continuous. I just ran some rare covid GPU units from WCG. The disk was doing 20MB/sec write non-stop. Another Boinc screwup. |
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Bryn Mawr Send message Joined: 26 Dec 18 Posts: 389 Credit: 12,073,013 RAC: 7,173
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Since virtually no project obeys this, it might aswell not be there. And on Boinctasks it's called "write to disk at most x seconds". That, surely, is BoincTasks and Efmer’s problem and nothing to do with Boinc. |
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Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,717,270 RAC: 10,117
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Presumably it was the Boinctasks author assuming "Request tasks to checkpoint at most every xx seconds" actually got obeyed once in a blue moon. Yes Boinctasks can have bugs, but it's 50 times easier to use than Boinc Manager. They really need to work on the interface. For example, I download 600 MW tasks at once to run on my GPU (just 2 hours work). Boinc Manager displays each of these on its own seperate line, no colour coding, nothing, I feel like I'm not in a GUI at all.Since virtually no project obeys this, it might aswell not be there. And on Boinctasks it's called "write to disk at most x seconds".That, surely, is BoincTasks and Efmer’s problem and nothing to do with Boinc. |
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Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
Presumably it was the Boinctasks author assuming "Request tasks to checkpoint at most every xx seconds" actually got obeyed once in a blue moon. Yes Boinctasks can have bugs, but it's 50 times easier to use than Boinc Manager. They really need to work on the interface. For example, I download 600 MW tasks at once to run on my GPU (just 2 hours work). Boinc Manager displays each of these on its own seperate line, no colour coding, nothing, I feel like I'm not in a GUI at all.Since virtually no project obeys this, it might aswell not be there. And on Boinctasks it's called "write to disk at most x seconds".That, surely, is BoincTasks and Efmer’s problem and nothing to do with Boinc. But BM is not a fancy GUI interface, it is there to present you with the raw data. BT is a fancy GUI and project manager, but it takes its info from BM and just arranges it in a nice easy way that makes sense. |
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Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
Greg, technical questions are being asked, you can respond here, or tell me what to say if you don't want to create an account. Been watching this thread all day, the usual things came up, but then someone got a idea and they now see the problem. I see they bumped it to 3 different sections. So it's something on their list. Finally! |
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Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,717,270 RAC: 10,117
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Yes, it fills in the gaps Boinc forgot about.But BM is not a fancy GUI interface, it is there to present you with the raw data.Presumably it was the Boinctasks author assuming "Request tasks to checkpoint at most every xx seconds" actually got obeyed once in a blue moon. Yes Boinctasks can have bugs, but it's 50 times easier to use than Boinc Manager. They really need to work on the interface. For example, I download 600 MW tasks at once to run on my GPU (just 2 hours work). Boinc Manager displays each of these on its own seperate line, no colour coding, nothing, I feel like I'm not in a GUI at all.Since virtually no project obeys this, it might aswell not be there. And on Boinctasks it's called "write to disk at most x seconds".That, surely, is BoincTasks and Efmer’s problem and nothing to do with Boinc. |
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Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,717,270 RAC: 10,117
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It's a pity you ended up with a slower drive because of it. This main PC has a 500GB SSD and a 4TB HDD. I want to replace the SSD (and even the HDD) with NVME, but lack of funds....Been watching this thread all day, the usual things came up, but then someone got a idea and they now see the problem.Greg, technical questions are being asked, you can respond here, or tell me what to say if you don't want to create an account.I'm there adding my remarks, thanks |
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Bryn Mawr Send message Joined: 26 Dec 18 Posts: 389 Credit: 12,073,013 RAC: 7,173
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Presumably it was the Boinctasks author assuming "Request tasks to checkpoint at most every xx seconds" actually got obeyed once in a blue moon. Yes Boinctasks can have bugs, but it's 50 times easier to use than Boinc Manager. They really need to work on the interface. For example, I download 600 MW tasks at once to run on my GPU (just 2 hours work). Boinc Manager displays each of these on its own seperate line, no colour coding, nothing, I feel like I'm not in a GUI at all.Since virtually no project obeys this, it might aswell not be there. And on Boinctasks it's called "write to disk at most x seconds".That, surely, is BoincTasks and Efmer’s problem and nothing to do with Boinc. If BT rewords the fixed text used in BM and the complaint is that the fixed text in BT is wrong then the fault cannot be attributed to BM. |
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Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,717,270 RAC: 10,117
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Yes it can since both wordings are a lie. The projects ignore your setting entirely.If BT rewords the fixed text used in BM and the complaint is that the fixed text in BT is wrong then the fault cannot be attributed to BM.Presumably it was the Boinctasks author assuming "Request tasks to checkpoint at most every xx seconds" actually got obeyed once in a blue moon. Yes Boinctasks can have bugs, but it's 50 times easier to use than Boinc Manager. They really need to work on the interface. For example, I download 600 MW tasks at once to run on my GPU (just 2 hours work). Boinc Manager displays each of these on its own seperate line, no colour coding, nothing, I feel like I'm not in a GUI at all.Since virtually no project obeys this, it might aswell not be there. And on Boinctasks it's called "write to disk at most x seconds".That, surely, is BoincTasks and Efmer’s problem and nothing to do with Boinc. |
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Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2117 Credit: 41,162,648 RAC: 14,990
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Quick note to say I've just grabbed some Rosetta 4.20 tasks... ...and they haven't even run out yet #TurningOverANewLeaf  
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Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,717,270 RAC: 10,117
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Quick note to say I've just grabbed some Rosetta 4.20 tasks...I really don't get hashtags. Are they for search engines that don't work right? |
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Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,717,270 RAC: 10,117
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Quick note to say I've just grabbed some Rosetta 4.20 tasks...Total queued jobs: 3,039,399 - wasn't it 2 and a bit million pythons? If so that is a lot of 4.2. Engage. |
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.clair. Send message Joined: 2 Jan 07 Posts: 274 Credit: 26,399,595 RAC: 0 |
Quick note to say I've just grabbed some Rosetta 4.20 tasks...Total queued jobs: 3,039,399 - wasn't it 2 and a bit million pythons? If so that is a lot of 4.2. Engage. Ahh . . , 42 the answer to , Life , The universe , And everything crunchable , MunchMunchLunch |
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Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,717,270 RAC: 10,117
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Have you consumed more homebrew than me? And it's not lunch here, it's 3am, I should be sleeping.Quick note to say I've just grabbed some Rosetta 4.20 tasks...Total queued jobs: 3,039,399 - wasn't it 2 and a bit million pythons? If so that is a lot of 4.2. Engage. |
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Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
It's a pity you ended up with a slower drive because of it. This main PC has a 500GB SSD and a 4TB HDD. I want to replace the SSD (and even the HDD) with NVME, but lack of funds....Been watching this thread all day, the usual things came up, but then someone got a idea and they now see the problem.Greg, technical questions are being asked, you can respond here, or tell me what to say if you don't want to create an account.I'm there adding my remarks, thanks Slower? Faster than the HDD. It's data storage, so super speed is not so important. But this bug cost me a lot of time, frustration and a bit of money. Fuel costs to swap plus 5 euros more for SSD vs the M.2 |
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Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
Have you consumed more homebrew than me? And it's not lunch here, it's 3am, I should be sleeping.Quick note to say I've just grabbed some Rosetta 4.20 tasks...Total queued jobs: 3,039,399 - wasn't it 2 and a bit million pythons? If so that is a lot of 4.2. Engage. 42! DA and the Hitchhikers guide Watch out for Marvin, Vogans and Disaster Area and lastly thanks for all the fish! |
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